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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-7823</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Where does the &quot;egyptian&quot; melody originally come from?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I know this melody as the cartoon snakecharmer song, and had always wondered where it came from too. It turns out to be hundreds of years of old, and goes by many different names. You can find an excellent capsule history of it in William Benzon&#039;s boo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Where does the &#8220;egyptian&#8221; melody originally come from?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I know this melody as the cartoon snakecharmer song, and had always wondered where it came from too. It turns out to be hundreds of years of old, and goes by many different names. You can find an excellent capsule history of it in William Benzon&#8217;s boo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-7753</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Visual remixes...&lt;/strong&gt;

Long before I got interested in electronic music, I was a fine arts guy. It bothers me that unauthorized appropriation of a music recording will get you sued, but visual artists who appropriate pop cultural materials get into museums and art history te...</description>
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<p>Long before I got interested in electronic music, I was a fine arts guy. It bothers me that unauthorized appropriation of a music recording will get you sued, but visual artists who appropriate pop cultural materials get into museums and art history te&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Is Quora the future of blogging? &#171; &#171; Quora Town Quora Town</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-7700</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Quora the future of blogging? &#171; &#171; Quora Town Quora Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-7697</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is Quora the future of blogging?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve been doing some experiments, pitting Quora against my blog in terms of page views, social media sharing and comments. Here&#039;s what I&#039;ve learned so far. First, I took one of my favorite old posts on the evolution of music, one that&#039;s been viewed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is Quora the future of blogging?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been doing some experiments, pitting Quora against my blog in terms of page views, social media sharing and comments. Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve learned so far. First, I took one of my favorite old posts on the evolution of music, one that&#8217;s been viewed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-7628</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Songwriting and genealogy...&lt;/strong&gt;

The more I study music, the more I come to believe that the best framework for understanding it is evolutionary biology. Songs don’t spontaneously spring into being any more than animals or plants do. They evolve from previous songs. Songs descend from...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Songwriting and genealogy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The more I study music, the more I come to believe that the best framework for understanding it is evolutionary biology. Songs don’t spontaneously spring into being any more than animals or plants do. They evolve from previous songs. Songs descend from&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-7229</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Are there any more &#039;great&#039; songs still to be written or will it just be samples and re-hashes from here on in?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m confident that there will be plenty more great songs written, because all of the ones written up to this point have essentially been samples and re-hashes. Name your preferred songwriter and I&#039;ll show you who they&#039;ve borrowed or outright stolen ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Are there any more &#8216;great&#8217; songs still to be written or will it just be samples and re-hashes from here on in?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m confident that there will be plenty more great songs written, because all of the ones written up to this point have essentially been samples and re-hashes. Name your preferred songwriter and I&#8217;ll show you who they&#8217;ve borrowed or outright stolen &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Disquiet &#187; Hip-Hop Forensics &#38; Sampling Geneology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disquiet &#187; Hip-Hop Forensics &#38; Sampling Geneology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There are numerous resources for sampling information, notably the song-specific pages at wikipedia.org (click through for a more prosaic description of &quot;Nas Is Like&quot;), the rap-oriented whosampled.com, and the more broadly defined secondhandsongs.com, which calls itself a &quot;cover songs database.&quot; But none of that crowd-accrued data has the gravity of Hein&#039;s post (which, of course, draws from those sources as raw material); his effort includes audio and video of various parts of the song, and commentary about the structure of the piece, as well as the nature of hip-hop and, more broadly, composition. As he writes in a related post, &quot;What works the best in music, as in biology, is a minor mutation on an existing successful replicat... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There are numerous resources for sampling information, notably the song-specific pages at wikipedia.org (click through for a more prosaic description of &quot;Nas Is Like&quot;), the rap-oriented whosampled.com, and the more broadly defined secondhandsongs.com, which calls itself a &quot;cover songs database.&quot; But none of that crowd-accrued data has the gravity of Hein&#039;s post (which, of course, draws from those sources as raw material); his effort includes audio and video of various parts of the song, and commentary about the structure of the piece, as well as the nature of hip-hop and, more broadly, composition. As he writes in a related post, &quot;What works the best in music, as in biology, is a minor mutation on an existing successful replicat&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sufi</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>Sufi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OPS! Forgot to spell check the earlier message, here&#039;s the corrected version. :)


If we look at music as the way our world is created(several dimensions), it will be easier to understand the differences in the songs mentioned up here. They all sounded like you in my ears rather than the originals. In theory, one of the basic construction principles of music is to create tension and release, progressions(as Steve mentioned) reflects this when combined in the right way. Also this tension/release principle is also supported by the notes inside a scale and so on. But this is just the very basic of music making, many other factors makes the songs as we hear them. In this case your way of playing these few chords(complicated subject itself!) rhythmically, velocities etc., the color and rhythm of your voice and other aspects that we can discus another time. Not to mention that we hear the same song differently depending on many things, our earlier musical references just to name one. So I would ask myself what does original means if you know what I mean.
Still I agree with you on that all of these sounds and stuff has been around in this world since a long time ago and we just discover them in different dimensions and time and they affect us differently. Just as a twins that might look alike in the first look but actually compacted individuals the same song performed by different artists could sound very original to me many times.

If you like to hear so here we’ve mixed flamenco with reggae in our own way which many European music critics see as original but of course it all depends on how one looks at it, ain’t that so?

http://www.youtube.com/user/Abjeez

Wish you a great day.</description>
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<p>If we look at music as the way our world is created(several dimensions), it will be easier to understand the differences in the songs mentioned up here. They all sounded like you in my ears rather than the originals. In theory, one of the basic construction principles of music is to create tension and release, progressions(as Steve mentioned) reflects this when combined in the right way. Also this tension/release principle is also supported by the notes inside a scale and so on. But this is just the very basic of music making, many other factors makes the songs as we hear them. In this case your way of playing these few chords(complicated subject itself!) rhythmically, velocities etc., the color and rhythm of your voice and other aspects that we can discus another time. Not to mention that we hear the same song differently depending on many things, our earlier musical references just to name one. So I would ask myself what does original means if you know what I mean.<br />
Still I agree with you on that all of these sounds and stuff has been around in this world since a long time ago and we just discover them in different dimensions and time and they affect us differently. Just as a twins that might look alike in the first look but actually compacted individuals the same song performed by different artists could sound very original to me many times.</p>
<p>If you like to hear so here we’ve mixed flamenco with reggae in our own way which many European music critics see as original but of course it all depends on how one looks at it, ain’t that so?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Abjeez" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/Abjeez</a></p>
<p>Wish you a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: Sufi</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/songwriting-and-genealogy/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>Sufi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we look at music as the way our world is created(several dimentions), it willl be easier to understand the differences in the songs mentioned up here. They all sounded like you in my ears rather than the originals. In theory, one of the basic construction principles of music is to create tension and release, progressions(as Steve mentioned) reflects this when combined in the right way. Also this tension/release principle is also supported by the notes inside a scale and so on. But this is just the very basic of music making, manyother factors makes the songs as we hear them. In this case your way of playing these few chords(complicated subject itself!) rhythmicaly, velocitivise etc., the color and rhythem of your voice and other aspects that we can discus another time. Not to mention that we hear the same song differently depending on many things, our earlier musical refrences just to name one. So I would ask myself what does original means if you know what I mean.
Still I agree with you on that all of these sounds and stuff has been around in this world since a long time ago and we just discover them in different dimensions and time and they affect us differently. Just as a twins that might look alike in the first look but actually compicated individuals the same song performed by different artists could sound very original to me manytimes.

If you like to hear so here we&#039;ve mixed flamenco with reggae in our own way which many european music critics see as original but of course it all depends on how one looks at it, ain&#039;t that so? :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/Abjeez

Wish you a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we look at music as the way our world is created(several dimentions), it willl be easier to understand the differences in the songs mentioned up here. They all sounded like you in my ears rather than the originals. In theory, one of the basic construction principles of music is to create tension and release, progressions(as Steve mentioned) reflects this when combined in the right way. Also this tension/release principle is also supported by the notes inside a scale and so on. But this is just the very basic of music making, manyother factors makes the songs as we hear them. In this case your way of playing these few chords(complicated subject itself!) rhythmicaly, velocitivise etc., the color and rhythem of your voice and other aspects that we can discus another time. Not to mention that we hear the same song differently depending on many things, our earlier musical refrences just to name one. So I would ask myself what does original means if you know what I mean.<br />
Still I agree with you on that all of these sounds and stuff has been around in this world since a long time ago and we just discover them in different dimensions and time and they affect us differently. Just as a twins that might look alike in the first look but actually compicated individuals the same song performed by different artists could sound very original to me manytimes.</p>
<p>If you like to hear so here we&#8217;ve mixed flamenco with reggae in our own way which many european music critics see as original but of course it all depends on how one looks at it, ain&#8217;t that so? <img src='http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Abjeez" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/Abjeez</a></p>
<p>Wish you a great day!</p>
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		<title>By: The Desert Lamp &#187; Campus &#187; Monday Morning Links, 21 March 2010: Paradise Lost</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Desert Lamp &#187; Campus &#187; Monday Morning Links, 21 March 2010: Paradise Lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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