<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Herbie Hancock gets future shock</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/</link>
	<description>Music, Technology, Evolution</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:18:42 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/#comment-7630</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/?p=913#comment-7630</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What are the elements of the &quot;sound of the 80s&quot;?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Shouted rap songs with extremely simple metrical and rhyme schemes that use no or minimal profanity. Low bit-rate digital sampling controlled from an MPC and vinyl scratching. Too much chorus on the guitars. Thin, treble-heavy solid state distortion sound....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What are the elements of the &#8220;sound of the 80s&#8221;?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Shouted rap songs with extremely simple metrical and rhyme schemes that use no or minimal profanity. Low bit-rate digital sampling controlled from an MPC and vinyl scratching. Too much chorus on the guitars. Thin, treble-heavy solid state distortion sound&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/?p=913#comment-627</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m sorry to hear that electronic music leaves you cold. Plenty of folks agree with you. I encourage you to keep your ears open, though. There&#039;s as much variety in quality and skill among drum machine programmers as there is in drummers. I experience heat and excitement from Jam Master Jay&#039;s drum programming that I don&#039;t feel from plenty of human drummers (and have been bored or put off by tons of boring drum programming, and excited by plenty of human drummers.) The adjectives &quot;standardized&quot; and &quot;homogenized&quot; likewise can be applied just as well to plenty of classical music and jazz, sometimes more accurately than electronic music. I&#039;d rather go hear a happening DJ spin than hear a bored orchestra running through an overplayed Mozart sonata for the zillionth time. It all depends on the performer, the people in the room, all the other contextual details.

Anyway, thanks for the comment. I like it when people care enough to disagree with me in long, thoughtful form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that electronic music leaves you cold. Plenty of folks agree with you. I encourage you to keep your ears open, though. There&#8217;s as much variety in quality and skill among drum machine programmers as there is in drummers. I experience heat and excitement from Jam Master Jay&#8217;s drum programming that I don&#8217;t feel from plenty of human drummers (and have been bored or put off by tons of boring drum programming, and excited by plenty of human drummers.) The adjectives &#8220;standardized&#8221; and &#8220;homogenized&#8221; likewise can be applied just as well to plenty of classical music and jazz, sometimes more accurately than electronic music. I&#8217;d rather go hear a happening DJ spin than hear a bored orchestra running through an overplayed Mozart sonata for the zillionth time. It all depends on the performer, the people in the room, all the other contextual details.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the comment. I like it when people care enough to disagree with me in long, thoughtful form.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rob Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/?p=913#comment-626</guid>
		<description>Classical musicians had a point about jazz.  As may be the case with this &quot;minimalist&quot; stuff, there were other points to make about jazz, but I feel no need to deride the skll set of those classical musicians that even today reject jazz even though I ultimately disagree with them.  I understand their point and, if articulated properly, it is quite valid - I just don&#039;t agree with it.

The degree of difficulty only has so much to do with it.  There are a lot of things in life  for which I have no particular use that I recognize are difficult to do.  Art is about choices; proficiency gives the artist more options but whether one salutes the artist&#039;s work or not more often than not depends upon agreement with the artist&#039;s choice of options.  I&#039;m not trying to be standardized, homogenized and mechanized, so I&#039;m not at all thrilled with the choices made by most of what occurs in hip-hop, techno, etc.  I don&#039;t care how much skill it takes to create something that leaves me cold, it still leaves me cold for very specific reasons.

 I &quot;get it&quot;; I just don&#039;t care.  And. why should I?  I grew up on some of the most redundant stuff imaginable but it still had soul.  This stuff doesn&#039;t.  That stuff grooved.  This stuff doesn&#039;t; it just has a beat.  There&#039;s a world of music, repetitive, minimalist and otherwise that has a certain &quot;engendered feeling&quot; that most of this stuff simply lacks.  I would go along with your evloving skill set hypothesis if what you&#039;re talking about existed in a vacuum, but it doesn&#039;t.  There&#039;s just too much basis for comparison on the same grounds that you&#039;re using to tout it.

 As for the abysmal sales of jazz (and the disappearance of a lot of other things), everything goes extinct at some point.  Oh well, that&#039;s capitalism.  The market tends to underproduce social good and overproduce pollution.  That&#039;s why McDonalds is so big - their product is the output of trained culinarians by the way, so even that crap isn&#039;t easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classical musicians had a point about jazz.  As may be the case with this &#8220;minimalist&#8221; stuff, there were other points to make about jazz, but I feel no need to deride the skll set of those classical musicians that even today reject jazz even though I ultimately disagree with them.  I understand their point and, if articulated properly, it is quite valid &#8211; I just don&#8217;t agree with it.</p>
<p>The degree of difficulty only has so much to do with it.  There are a lot of things in life  for which I have no particular use that I recognize are difficult to do.  Art is about choices; proficiency gives the artist more options but whether one salutes the artist&#8217;s work or not more often than not depends upon agreement with the artist&#8217;s choice of options.  I&#8217;m not trying to be standardized, homogenized and mechanized, so I&#8217;m not at all thrilled with the choices made by most of what occurs in hip-hop, techno, etc.  I don&#8217;t care how much skill it takes to create something that leaves me cold, it still leaves me cold for very specific reasons.</p>
<p> I &#8220;get it&#8221;; I just don&#8217;t care.  And. why should I?  I grew up on some of the most redundant stuff imaginable but it still had soul.  This stuff doesn&#8217;t.  That stuff grooved.  This stuff doesn&#8217;t; it just has a beat.  There&#8217;s a world of music, repetitive, minimalist and otherwise that has a certain &#8220;engendered feeling&#8221; that most of this stuff simply lacks.  I would go along with your evloving skill set hypothesis if what you&#8217;re talking about existed in a vacuum, but it doesn&#8217;t.  There&#8217;s just too much basis for comparison on the same grounds that you&#8217;re using to tout it.</p>
<p> As for the abysmal sales of jazz (and the disappearance of a lot of other things), everything goes extinct at some point.  Oh well, that&#8217;s capitalism.  The market tends to underproduce social good and overproduce pollution.  That&#8217;s why McDonalds is so big &#8211; their product is the output of trained culinarians by the way, so even that crap isn&#8217;t easy.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/?p=913#comment-625</guid>
		<description>Thanks man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks man!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scummy</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/herbie-hancock-gets-future-shock/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>Scummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/?p=913#comment-624</guid>
		<description>awesome entry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome entry</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

